tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8967839220888449722.post7797550911664429852..comments2024-03-23T20:58:53.070-08:00Comments on From the Silicon to the Tanana Valley: Gifts of friendshipArvayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02300309277462514252noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8967839220888449722.post-74923199635515911692010-10-08T11:51:48.222-08:002010-10-08T11:51:48.222-08:00I'm with you there. I could afford to be more ...I'm with you there. I could afford to be more judgmental about killing animals when I was a vegetarian, but that just isn't the case any more.<br /><br />Only Americans can mentally afford to separate 'pet animals' from 'food animals' because we eat rabbit meat and horse meat, and interact socially with our livestock, much less frequently that other cultures do. So we put up an artificial mental barrier.<br /><br />Having pets while eating other animals doesn't bother me as much as it used to. I used to feel guilty about cheerfully eating cows while finding other cultures' eating dogs abhorrent. But now I'm okay with it and at peace with my own feelings. Dogs are family members, beef cattle are not, end of story.<br /><br />I know what you mean about rabbit rescue folks! They are mostly vegetarian, but beyond that, a wee bit quirky. Kind, warm, big-hearted, and generous, but also a wee bit odd. :)Arvayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02300309277462514252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8967839220888449722.post-75661596107153939042010-10-07T19:11:47.777-08:002010-10-07T19:11:47.777-08:00"You have pets, and you also have meat on you..."You have pets, and you also have meat on your table, yes? There is absolutely nothing wrong with loving what belongs to you, and not loving what doesn't. So people get attached to their family milk cow, but eat other cows. And yes, I like my neighborhood meese, and I eat other meese."<br /><br />I've struggled with this one for a while. Rabbit meat is delicious. REALLY delicious - to me. It used to be the case that if rabbit was on the menu somewhere, I would order it without hesitation. When I got my two buns, I stopped eating rabbit. Since they were both "rescue" buns, and since one came from a horrible situation in which her littermates were butchered and eaten in front of her, I could not in good conscience continue to eat other rabbits.<br /><br />I do not, however, look down on other people who eat rabbit. Unlike most of the rabbit rescue folks, I'm not vegetarian, and (ghast!) also not on an anti-rabbit-meat crusade. (Rabbit FUR is another matter.)<br /><br />The reality is that rabbits are at the bottom of the food chain. That my rabbits will live to a freakishly old age in the comfort of my home instead suffering in the maws of a dog, coyote, wolf, fox, cat, bird of prey, etc., doesn't change reality for the 99.99999% of other rabbits on the planet.<br /><br />Cows and pigs are adorable. I like chickens, too. If I owned any of those animals of pets, it would probably significantly cramp my enjoyment of those meats. But that's me. (And since I don't have a pet cow, I have no guilt associated with eating any other cows, and think I will have a burger for dinner.:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8967839220888449722.post-71763358085327659082010-10-07T15:50:49.215-08:002010-10-07T15:50:49.215-08:00Well, I find it ironic that you financially suppor...Well, I find it ironic that you financially support factory farms, but find it abhorrent to accept moose meat and scraps from a friend who had sustainably hunted an animal whose natural predators had been thinned. And that you would evidently prefer that those scraps go to waste, rather than feed rescued dogs, since that makes the deliverer a "moose murderer."<br /><br />Honestly, I think the only way a person can be against responsible hunting and still be consistent with oneself is if (1) you are a strict vegetarian and (2) you are okay with large predators, such as wolves and mountain lions, living in human-populated areas and keeping the population of prey animals down.<br /><br />Otherwise, you are either not thinking, or you are indulging in hypocrisy.<br /><br />I also find no inconsistency in admiring one animal and eating another. You have pets, and you also have meat on your table, yes? There is absolutely nothing wrong with loving what belongs to you, and not loving what doesn't. So people get attached to their family milk cow, but eat other cows. And yes, I like my neighborhood meese, and I eat other meese.<br /><br />I am absolutely gobsmacked that you can judge me so harshly when you regularly support factory farms. The cruelty and suffering, not to mention ecological damage, that occur at those facilities are things I can neither accept nor support.Arvayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02300309277462514252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8967839220888449722.post-82880001031372658042010-10-07T15:25:42.931-08:002010-10-07T15:25:42.931-08:00(i only find it ironic since you are constantly ad...(i only find it ironic since you are constantly admiring your meese in your yard and their meese babies)bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8967839220888449722.post-330937680405219802010-10-07T15:25:08.975-08:002010-10-07T15:25:08.975-08:00that doesn't make you any less of a moose murd...that doesn't make you any less of a moose murderer. <br /><br />moose murderer!bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8967839220888449722.post-66781991267552724002010-10-07T00:39:47.854-08:002010-10-07T00:39:47.854-08:00Sharing is one of the most important values that t...Sharing is one of the most important values that the indigenous people of the Aleutian Chain lived by. I am sure it was that way throughout the rest of the north lands. We teach our youngsters to share their hunting and gathering windfalls with especially those not able to easily hunt and gather for themselves. It is always heartening to see teenagers passing on that trait to youngsters. And sharing is such a necessity in a place as environmentally challenging as Alaska that it is a value that is now shared by those who have come to call this their home. I need your address so that I can share some salmonberry jelly with you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8967839220888449722.post-14385452651447917152010-10-06T22:54:16.789-08:002010-10-06T22:54:16.789-08:00Ahh so there -are- shanks on a moose - lovely love...Ahh so there -are- shanks on a moose - lovely lovely cut! Thanks for the article on how to break down the moose. So interesting. I'm surprised at the pickled tongue part, though. I've had lots of beef tongue and I'd never dream of pickling it - it's so fatty and gelatinous and delicate. MmmmmmmRenanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8967839220888449722.post-48859575496282437982010-10-06T14:08:11.078-08:002010-10-06T14:08:11.078-08:00Now you have so much meat, I would give the 2009 m...Now you have so much meat, I would give the 2009 meat to dogs, old meat has freeze bite and does not taste good.mdrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8967839220888449722.post-68952463575467621112010-10-06T14:03:06.021-08:002010-10-06T14:03:06.021-08:00Glad to see your friends are nice to you and I kno...Glad to see your friends are nice to you and I know you are nice to them too. Just make sure your freezer works well for all the food. Have a wonderful winter.mdrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8967839220888449722.post-80663874379385463592010-10-06T13:46:02.835-08:002010-10-06T13:46:02.835-08:00Haha! That is one of my favorites, as well as &quo...Haha! That is one of my favorites, as well as "Beet pulp safety warning":<br />http://www.shady-acres.com/susan/squirrel.shtml<br /><br />Did you know that in Europe, they call moose elk and elk wapiti? It's very confusing! Just when I was over the fries/chips/crisps and the cookie/biscuit thing! And "tea" being a meal!Arvayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02300309277462514252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8967839220888449722.post-68891550164035708342010-10-06T13:39:55.454-08:002010-10-06T13:39:55.454-08:00I know an elk is not a moose, but I still think no...I know an elk is not a moose, but I still think now would be an excellent time to revisit "Dogs in Elk":<br />http://tabletalk.salon.com/webx?14@@.ee90352/1317Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8967839220888449722.post-87587344359522536642010-10-06T11:39:40.631-08:002010-10-06T11:39:40.631-08:00For Rena:
http://www.outdoorcanada.ca/hunt/edible_...For Rena:<br />http://www.outdoorcanada.ca/hunt/edible_moose.shtml<br /><br />I've come a long way from being a vegetarian, but one thing I still adhere to: I will absolutely not eat factory-farmed meat. It's either got to be sustainably hunted, or humanely raised.<br /><br />Moose do have all the same parts as domestic cows (in fact, they are called cows/bulls rather than bucks/does), but they are so huge that most bone-in cuts become quite unmanageable. :)Arvayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02300309277462514252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8967839220888449722.post-44189354241707639252010-10-06T10:11:33.771-08:002010-10-06T10:11:33.771-08:00I do like the sound of that culture, which only se...I do like the sound of that culture, which only seems to exist in more remote areas now. I will visit Alaska one day, definitely. My first visit to the US is next week (New England, for a wedding) and I can't wait!Debsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8967839220888449722.post-66292191348540582502010-10-05T21:37:10.802-08:002010-10-05T21:37:10.802-08:00So how are moose braises? One of my fav cuts of b...So how are moose braises? One of my fav cuts of beef are the shanks (legs) with the marrow and the bone and the meat that you have to simmer for forever until they're tender. I wonder if moose have shanks and if they're tasty? <br />Do moose have short ribs like cows? Or if you're not a bone-gnawer, then the bacon area around the stomach?<br />And can you get moose cheeks like I've heard people get beef cheeks? <br /><br />Just wondering how they're structured and butchered...Renanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8967839220888449722.post-50709236648858270662010-10-05T17:25:30.985-08:002010-10-05T17:25:30.985-08:00Oh, you're a vegetarian now?
No?
Cow, chicke...Oh, you're a vegetarian now?<br /><br />No?<br /><br />Cow, chicken, and pig murderer!Arvayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02300309277462514252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8967839220888449722.post-22602919831353456512010-10-05T16:56:55.613-08:002010-10-05T16:56:55.613-08:00what's from 2009? that's kinda old...
an...what's from 2009? that's kinda old... <br /><br />and...<br /><br />moose murderer!bnoreply@blogger.com